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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:10 am

Let's see if this link works:
[3:23:46 AM] Advent Snail: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1j1iWZNDr24WAkV4yINfAR-_Ez4zXrYgkG2ehRDF_lrg/viewform?usp=send_form
[3:33:00 AM] Advent Snail: Gonna send this thing to Guerilla Feminism, Everyday Feminism, Being Feminist, & Feminism.

Still deciding what other places I might want to send it to.

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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Astarte on Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:32 am

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Post by Leafy on Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:52 pm

I did it.
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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:52 pm

Update: Managed to post to EverydayFeminism. Have 10 responses already!

Shame they didn't get back to me before I had to resort to posting on my Failbook, though.

Speaking of Failbook, I'm going to repost to the "Class of" pages.

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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:18 pm

Continuing to chronicle the study, I sent this message to 4 people who left me contact information:

Hello. You're receiving this message because you responded to a survey I posted on the "Everyday Feminism" page, and also offered contact information for a follow-up. My E-mail is different than what it says on the form because I thought it would be easier to send from my personal account.

There are a few questions I asked that I wanted to get more information about, so I was wondering what specific thoughts may have crossed your mind when asked. Also, feel free to say if you found any of these questions poorly worded, loaded, or otherwise bad, that is also valuable information. I'll try to resist the urge to ask a million more questions, and keep this brief.


1. "In terms of physical ability (ignoring reproduction), men and women are essentially the same"

I got a wide range of responses here, so I'm wondering what similarities or differences people thought of when deciding which to pick.


2. "Sexism is the main cause of the gap in men’s and women’s job earnings"

A lot of responses strongly agree with this statement, but I wonder if it's because of a belief that direct discrimination is literally the largest cause, or that it indirectly affects most causes of the wage gap?


3. "Women's experiences and beliefs are more alike than they are different."

I've gotten a few comments that this question is unclear. Is there something you thought I was asking about here, or is it just complete gibberish?


4. "Men should not comment on issues that affect women"

This is another question that got a range of responses, so I'm really just wondering, when do you feel that men should comment, and when did you feel they should not?


5. "If gender discrimination exists, it is usually not done on purpose"

A lot of people disagreed with this question, so I'm hoping for a bit of clarification on what you thought when answering this.


On the questions about the harm of pornography and prostitution, most people answered somewhere in the middle. However, people strongly felt that both should be legal. There are 2 competing explanations for why a person might vote this way. Do you think one explanation reflects your opinions more, or do you think I'm missing some third option? Also, is it the same answer for both prostitution and pornography, or are they apples and oranges?

1. The concept of the sex industry is inherently harmful--"all porn is bad porn," if you will--but government overreach is an even bigger concern. For example, someone may feel that, while porn is bad, giving the government permission to censor offensive speech is even worse.

2. It isn't the sex work per se that is the problem, but rather there are secondary causes, such as a lack of protection for and stigmatization of sex workers, or too much violent imagery in pornography. It is therefore conceivably possible to have "porn that doesn't degrade women."

Last but not least, thank you for responding to the survey, and thank you again if you choose to respond to this E-mail.

Though, obviously, I can't just plaster their answers & information on a public forum, so if they do respond, I'm probably going to have to create a Word document anyway, even though I wanted to avoid it. Blargh.

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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Tsukuyomi on Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:54 pm

Maybe you would like to send it to Feminists Against Vaccination. It's possible they gladly would answer your survey.

As for wether prostitution should be legal or not, the discussion that went before the ban in Sweden was if it should be illegal to buy, sell or both. In the end it's buying sex that's illegal, since apparently some sellers are here through trafficking and not really selling their bodies of their own will and not getting the money, hence they would unjustified be criminalized although they are victims.

As for the laws in Norway, all I know is that prostitution is illegal in all its forms, but Karl Johan and some streets nearby is where the prostitutes are.
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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Neo Bahamut on Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:49 pm

Yeah, there are a lot of arguments for & against prostitution, but it's pretty much universally agreed that criminalizing the prostitutes themselves is dumb. Prostitutes are an at-risk population who feel they can't rely on the law to protect them because, oh shit, their job is illegal.

As far as FAV, thanks for the suggestion, but it sounds pretty niche & I think incorporating anti-vaxxer nonsense would skew the results.

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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Tsukuyomi on Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:36 pm

I thought they could answer it because they do claim to be feminists. But of course you choose, maybe they would flame you for not having anything about anti-vaxxing.
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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:12 am

List of things to look at when I'm done adding the data into Excel:

*Do the effects of race, politics, & sex still remain?
*Is political affiliation related to thoughts on porn/prostitution?
*Is there still a difference between the class samples & the online samples?
*Can I sort the majors into colleges?
*Do I have a larger sample of international students now?
*Are people who say they're not feminist more likely to say that feminism doesn't help men?

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Post by HarleyThomas on Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:03 am

Doing anything relating to anti-vaccination groups is a bad idea.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:11 am

So the effect of race that I thought I found may have just been Excel being retarded in how it displayed the data, however it looks like there's still an effect of gender that may or may not interact with race.

Still finding the predicted effect of political affiliation.

Preliminary findings on scale validity & agreement supported, but with a surprising result relating to the question on intentionality of gender discrimination.

I'm probably not going to look for data on specific ages, because I'm already going to have trouble narrowing this down to 5 items to focus on. I'm thinking of dividing it along:

1. Groups most likely to rate themselves as "feminist."
2. Views on pornography/prostitution.
3. Level of agreement with the scale, regardless of self-identification.
4. Questions with least disagreement.
5. Questions with unpredicted disagreement.

Not sure where I'm going to place the cutoff point on the last 2. I SHOULD get more data to make sure my sample is representative, with the Google Forms link if possible, because it will autodump shit into Excel.


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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:19 pm

A whole 9 black people responded to this survey out of 103 total responses. Even fewer Asians. Wondering if it's even worth analyzing race with those numbers.

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Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:18 am

I think my current plan is working. I've already knocked out 3 of my items, & it won't take very long to explain which questions had the least disagreement. On the other hand, I'm supposed to go for about 900-1500 words, & I'm currently at about 1000, so I may or may not have to cut something.

The biggest challenge is probably going to be accessing a colored printer.

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Post by Astarte on Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:10 am

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Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:41 am

Penn State is fucking cheap & the home printer is constantly running out of ink in addition to being a pain in the ass to use, since it won't connect to my laptop wirelessly & it's also downstairs.

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Post by Astarte on Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:28 am

"Yes" would have been quicker.
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Post by HarleyThomas on Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:12 am

I bet they have colored printers in Detroit. And Detroit is the Somalia of the US.
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Re: Feminist Survey Thing

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:44 pm

Okay, in my Discussion, I need to mention that:

*The small sizes of several groups may have been a factor.
*That there was only 1 black dude may have been a factor.

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Post by Tsukuyomi on Sun May 31, 2015 2:52 am

So, how is this paper of yours going? It feels like it should be finnished by now.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Sun May 31, 2015 3:48 am

It is, I got a pretty good grade on it, now I just have to arrange to meet with the professor because I'm considering using it for grad school.

I also had a lot of people asking for results, but I figured since I'll be having a meeting over this thing, I might as well hold off until after that.

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