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Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:33 pm

I was bored last night, so I was thinking about FullBring. You know how Ginjo says Ichigo's is a "clad-type"? That sort of implies there are other types, doesn't there? The conclusion I came to is that there are 4 specific types:

1. Obviously, the only type that was ever named. The user wears their power, which implies that its main feature is to act as armor.

2. Ramen Aizen & Facebook seem to be the polar opposite of this. Their object changes into a weapon that's incredibly powerful, but they themselves don't get any type of added protection or strength.

3. British Kid & Fuhrer Bradley didn't seem to change their objects, but rather drew a whole mess of abilities from them. The reason for the separation is because since the watch didn't change, it's probably little more resilliant than your average watch.

4. The person can just pick up any object to use, so long as it satisfies a particular "theme" or "element." Interestingly, only Riruka does this, but in BRP, most (surviving) FullBringers are this.

With this in mind, you can tentatively sort characters into types:


1. Ichigo, everyone who gained Ichigo's power
2. Tsukishima, Ginjo, Fauxhawk (I don't remember the name of that kid who follows Tsuk around), Jackie
3. Yukio, Giriko
4. Riruka

Also, the Neo's RP version:


1. Zalera (though I still regret giving him that armor)
2. None that I can think of, though Zalera would be it without his armor
3. John (he uses any mirror, but activates his ability through a specific one), Karasu, Asmodeus
4. Gevurah, Euryale, Noctis, Kujaku

I honestly forget what Mammon did.

There is some overlap here, but I also think there's a sort of natural hierarchy. Yes, Ichigo gets a weapon, but the more distinctive feature is his armor. Yes, Tsukishima draws out an ability from his object, but the more distinctive feature is the transformation into a weapon.

Also interesting to note, there doesn't seem to be any case where the object just changes into a weapon or armor & that's its only power. The person always seems to get some additional supernatural ability from it. Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho, Chad's fistcero things, Tsukishima's friendly fire, Gingjo's big energy sword move, etc.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:53 pm

Sounds legit man. Also reminds me I had the twins drop out of the story for no apparent reason other than boredom.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:36 am

Mammon could sacrifice his wealth to turn something else into gold. Not sure what the fuck that is, but that is what he did, if I remember correctly.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:44 am

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure he had one object that linked all of the rest. Like a gold coin or something. Same as John, basically.

I was rather hesitant about doing the 4th type, because I think there are unspoken restraints on it.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:47 am

speaking of the new fullbringers still fit the pattern in BRP.

John's still envy, I forget what noct and Eurayle are.

Karasu is the new greed, he loves collecting shit and can never get enough (or he could be considered sloth cause he prefers to standback and let others fight like his dolls)

and Kujaku is Pride since he's always proud and boastful of his skills as a swordsman.

If I ever decide to do anything with them that is.
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Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:50 am

Sloth, and Wrath, in that order.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:53 am

but Noct's always POed...

Speaking of the sins, I got to watching Brotherhood (again, I never finished since I started reading the manga cause ti covers the same ground) it might be time for another FMA rp attempt Neo.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:58 am

It is kind of hard to keep her lazy since she is always fighting, but if you notice, she is always last to do something, or last to suggest something get done. And she isn't always POed...
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:59 am

She also does sleep and lay around a lot... ok you're right.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:13 am

Except you did that after I made her sloth because the original meaning was "depressed."

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Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:25 am

Acedia, more or less apathy. I do that tons, but to further the point, I keep her lazy.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:16 am

I forgot Orihime & Chad. I'd say they're Type 2.

Which brings up another point, how close to Hollow powers does FullBring have to be? Chad's abilities are pretty similar to Cero & Hierro, but about 90% of Hollow powers are organic, while as I noted previously FullBring rarely is.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:55 pm

Not if you think about it. Thinking about organic, and inorganic may be leading you down the wrong road. All things have souls, and that is what Hollow powers come from.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by HarleyThomas on Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:11 pm

Holy shit, who cares?
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:50 pm

I do. I'm guessing Neo does as well. Casual conversations on a topic two people have an interest in, go figure...
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:59 pm

But souls have organic parts in Bleach. That totally makes sense too. Point being, seldom do Hollows have Kido-based powers, though the more powerful ones seem more likely to.

Put another way; Invaders Must Die is like Garganta/Negacion, El Directo is like Cero, Doll House is like how Hollows can remove/transplant souls, & Dirty Boots is like ???.

Also, Harley, this is relevent to my interests because of BRP.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:30 pm

Dirt Boots is like a weird version of Hierro.

What you should be asking is how Moe's power fits in to the scheme. Jackpot Knuckle isn't like any hollow power seen thus far.
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Post by Script-Z on Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:03 pm

As for Dirty Boots, I'd say all "worn" FullBrings are like Hierro, but what of Time Tells no Lies? Also, Moe, honestly his is the most unique power, unless we count in Orihime as well.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Cross of Scaffold: It doesn't matter, because Ginjo is probably Bringing his Zanpakuto's old powers.

Book of the End: There are enough "mind control" Hollows to make this feasible.

Jackpot Knuckle: That is interesting. I'm not sure I recall any Hollow with passive abilities that work outwardly.

Dirty Boots: As I said before, no idea.

Time Tells No Lies: It is hinted in a few instances that Hollows have the power to possess humans. One could argue that his power works by having the watch "possess" a target.

Umm...Orihime: Well, even Hollows find Orihime's power weird. But then again, would they react the same way to Tsukishima's? A fair number of Hollows do "budding," though.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:00 pm

Also treachery. I had to post it. I am sorry but it IS Nnoi's unofficial release theme.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:08 am

What now?
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Seraph on Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:28 am

Now I kinda want to smack Mortal myself for being an idiot.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:27 am

You know, if Hollows can possess people (which Metastica more-or-less said they could), I have to wonder why they don't do it more often.

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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Script-Z on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:31 pm

And I wanted to punch Yue for fucking up the obvious pairing.

Maybe they can only do it on weaklings. A power like that would become pointless at this stage in the story.
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Re: Another Goddamn FullBring Theory

Post by Neo Bahamut on Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:44 pm

But it raises a lot of questions.

Is your Reitsu hidden while you're possessing someone?

Actually, that's my only real question. That's kind of a vague ability with Hollows. Aizen seems to suggest they can't do it ordinarily.

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