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Post by HarleyThomas on Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:43 am

The third Rebuild movie is coming out next year or so.
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Post by Potterwatcher1997 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:23 pm

Neo Bahamut wrote:Don't listen to Potter, I watched the anime version of Death Note, & it was just fine.

Yes, the anime is "fine," but the manga is way better. First off, they don't add in random hinted yaoi scenes just because over half of the fanbase wants L/Light to be true, and second, like I said before, the ending was much, much, MUCH better.
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Post by Script-Z on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:39 pm

I wasn't whining, I think the most whining I did was complain about the penguin because it was fucking retarded and came out of no where. I do agree with Seraph though, Shinji being a chump is annoying, him being about 4 is also annoying, but it is a shonen, I've come to expect this kind of thing.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:52 pm

The ending was nothing special. It was just extended, as I recall.

Script, the entire point is that Shinji isn't heroic. It does annoy most people, but it is what it is.

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Post by Seraph on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:54 pm

Its the fact he doesn't get any development except for more and more self-loathing that irks me.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:57 pm

Yeah, that's called development.

No one ever said you had to develop in a positive direction.

And, being realistic, if you're a 14 year old driving a cannibalistic space-man robot powered by the soul of your dead mother, it isn't going to be.

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Post by Seraph on Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:04 pm

That and the director pretty much admitted the reason the original was the way it was is because he was suicidally depressed and Re:build was the way it was suppose to be.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:08 pm

No. No it wasn't. It's true he was depressed, but he never said anything about it being "done wrong." Myths about Eva's production, don't believe them.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Potterwatcher1997 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:20 pm

I liked Shinji better in the original. It was fun to hate him, and more easy to do so when he was whiny and useless.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:08 pm

I'm like the only one who doesn't hate him. I don't think he's the greatest thing ever, or even the greatest character on that show, or even close to that, but I don't hate him.

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Post by Balsteen on Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:42 pm

L's going to die of a diabetic coma.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Potterwatcher1997 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:51 pm

Neo Bahamut wrote:I'm like the only one who doesn't hate him. I don't think he's the greatest thing ever, or even the greatest character on that show, or even close to that, but I don't hate him.

He killed the best damn character in the whole show!
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Kaworu gets what Kaworu wants.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:16 am

Its not that he isn't heroic that turns me away from him, it is the fact that he is whining while doing it. If you're met with hardship you don't have to face it head on like a boss, but there are better ways to be "not heroic" that doesn't come down to crying like a girl. Also, fucking spoilers you cock munching fucker.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:22 am

There wasn't really anything I could do once Potter mentioned "the best character."

Once again, I think you're missing the point.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:28 am

Maybe I am, I'm not far into the story. That said, I'm far enough to know that a little boy whining about his lot in the story isn't all that fun, or interesting. There are plenty of ways to be unheroic, don't take the call to action, but do so without whining; don't self-sacrifice, but don't be a bitch about it.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:34 am

And Shinji doesn't do those things because he's a maladjusted weirdo. Also, remember how I said much of what the characters do is deconstruction? Look at virtually every other Shonen protagonist. Ichigo, Naruto (pre timeskip), Kenshin, Goku, they're ALL about toughing out the hard times & being as manly as their girlish good looks will possibly allow.

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Post by Script-Z on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:44 am

I understand that much but the opposite of Goku doesn't have to be a whiny brat. It could simply be someone who is all, "lolno, fuck that noise." Considering the very little I know of the story it'd actually work too.

"You don't come around for 3 years and expect me to pilot a robot? Fuck you dad, I'm leaving."
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Potterwatcher1997 on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:55 am

Script, you still have no idea who I think the strongest character is, so it's not really a spoiler, is it?
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by HarleyThomas on Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:59 am

Potterwatcher1997 wrote:
Neo Bahamut wrote:Don't listen to Potter, I watched the anime version of Death Note, & it was just fine.

Yes, the anime is "fine," but the manga is way better. First off, they don't add in random hinted yaoi scenes just because over half of the fanbase wants L/Light to be true, and second, like I said before, the ending was much, much, MUCH better.

Implying the copious amounts of homolust weren't the best part of the series.

Script-Z wrote:I understand that much but the opposite of Goku doesn't have to be a whiny brat. It could simply be someone who is all, "lolno, fuck that noise." Considering the very little I know of the story it'd actually work too.

"You don't come around for 3 years and expect me to pilot a robot? Fuck you dad, I'm leaving."

Yeah, 'cause that's totally what someone who's looking for their fathers approval would do, right?
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:02 am

1. Then you'd have no story.
2. That's not the opposite, that's Vegeta.
3. Beyond that, it gets complicated.

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Post by Script-Z on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:39 am

Not everyone with father issues looks for their approval. Once again, this may be because I don't know enough of the story, but anecdotal proof says that sometimes when your father is a dick to you, and abandons you, you don't seek his approval, you just tell him to fuck off and sever any remaining ties.

To Neo's points, I guess you're right, but still, crying is for queers, not manly men, like myself.

And also, Vegeta is a badass, Shinji should take lessons. PS. If anyone wants approval from their father, it is Vegeta.
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Post by HarleyThomas on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:44 am

Shinji. Not badass.

If there's one thing about Shinji that everyone should know it's that he's a badass.

As 2.22 shows where he takes his fathers advice an defeats Zeruel all by himself. None of that terrifying as all Hell beserk Unit-01 shit.

Although it was still very much terrifying just not itchy, tasty terrifying.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:46 am

He had his father's approval.

And that's why daddy had to die.

Shinji has a whole slew of mental problems. That's basically what you need to know.

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Post by Script-Z on Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:58 am

Vegeta probably wanted to keep hearing him approve. Vegeta had a lot of issues, even after he became a father. Especially after he became a father.
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