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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:33 pm

She's well within the normal parameters, unless you count the dark secret. Once that's revealed, she claims to be a parasite who can't feel love, but I think that's not entirely true.

It makes sense in context, so far as anything in Durararararara makes sense.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Seraph on Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:00 pm

Compared to Kill Em' All Daryl, Major Sergei isn't all that bad though Script. He's an interrogator. Being and looking freaky is just another way to psychologically affect his target.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:15 pm

I guess that is part of my issue, we are being convinced by a guy whose job it is to turn people. How can you take someone like that at their word? I still think the mother should have did it, would have made the most impact.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Tsukuyomi on Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:27 pm

Speaking of anime/manga, someone here who by happenstance has read/seen Samurai Deeper Kyo?
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Post by Potterwatcher1997 on Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:18 pm

Never heard of it.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:48 pm

I don't know what Dark & Script are talking about, but I feel the need to point out that if "looking weird" was a valid interrogation technique, more cops would do that, as it is not that hard to slap on some mis-matched costume materials.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:12 pm

It is an anime called Guilty Crown. Only 4 episodes so far. Pretty good. Futuristic, has mechs, some a world ravaging disease that just got cured, and a shadowy medical/ militaristic organization, and, of course, a rag tag bunch of rebels. The animation is pretty damn good though, and I like the art direction.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:14 pm

That sounds awful.

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Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:23 pm

It is actually pretty good.

Also.

Take out rebels, and replace disease with exploding continent, and we have NGE.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:27 pm

Not really. The SEELE/Children conflict...well, let's face it, it didn't exist. There was no "ragtag group of rebels," just Gendo manipulating the fuck out of everyone else. Anyone who tried to rebel, it was all too little, too late.

Plus, one reason I like Eva is because the Evas AREN'T really mechas. As a rule, I hate mecha shows.

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Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:37 pm

I said take out the rebel part.

Also, the mechs are not really to focus. They're just a way to have faceless mooks get killed off. The big hook is that the main character can pull weapons out of different people. One was a gravity gun, the main one is a sword, and he used a kaleidoscope to reflect a shit ton of lasers once.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:40 pm

Still sounds pretty awful.

So, in other words, you have Eva if you change everything to Eva?

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Taegan on Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:55 pm

Ew, mechas.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:31 pm

No, but they have basic things in common.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:39 pm

Those being?

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:50 pm

Script-Z wrote:Futuristic, has mechs, some a world ravaging event that just got "cured", and a shadowy science/ militaristic organization.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:19 pm

I wouldn't say Eva is futuristic.
I wouldn't call the Evas mechs.
Okay.
By that token, Eva is similar to Kingdom Hearts.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:29 pm

Made in 95, takes place in 2015. Future, even by today.
They're bio-mechs, still mechs.

I can draw lines from Organization XIII and SEELE, as well as Human Compliment Project, and whatever they wanted to do with the heart shaped moon thingy.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:17 pm

Made in 95, takes place in 2015. Future, even by today.

So we're talking about when the series takes place, not how advanced the civilization is?

They're bio-mechs, still mechs.

"Bio-mechs"? The fuck does that even mean?

I can draw lines from Organization XIII and SEELE, as well as Human Compliment Project, and whatever they wanted to do with the heart shaped moon thingy..

1. Human Instrumentality Project.
2. My point.
3. Most of the Organization thought they could regain their hearts, Xemnas just wanted to become a being of deific power over the worlds.
4. So, in that respect, they aren't really that close.


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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:35 pm

The Geo-Front, and buildings that were able to burrow underground isn't futuristic? That aside, yes, aside from a cool looking building here and there, it is mostly a Tokyo from today.

Biological machines. Like a cyborg. You can't deny that the Eva's were not mechanical in some respect, despite their gooey insides, I mean, the damn things came with extension cords.

As far as I know, the names are interchangeable.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:25 am

The Geo-Front, and buildings that were able to burrow underground isn't futuristic? That aside, yes, aside from a cool looking building here and there, it is mostly a Tokyo from today.

Most of the Geo Front already existed, it is the remains of the Egg of Lilith. That's why it rises out of the ground or some shit in End of Evangelion. It is also why plants grow there in absence of light.

Most things that were not derived from the Angels are things we could theoretically do today if we could amass the manpower & resources. The only real exception is the Magi & the technology to transplant souls. And the latter was never really explained, so "soul" could be a euphemism or it could be derived from Angelstuff.

Biological machines. Like a cyborg. You can't deny that the Eva's were not mechanical in some respect, despite their gooey insides, I mean, the damn things came with extension cords.

They really aren't. The electricity is supplied to move the muscles because their cores aren't supposed to work. Of course, Unit 01 defied this a few times, & eventually solved the problem altogether.

Other "mechanical" aspects include the armor, which was shown to be only skin-deep, & the entry plug, which is basically just a circuit breaker jammed in their spines to control the signals for movement.

The closes analogy would be Deadpool, from Origins of Wolverine. He's controlled by a signal, & he's been modified with all of these weapons, but he's essentially less of a robot & more of a reanimated corpse.

As far as I know, the names are interchangeable.

Then you don't know very far. The Instrumentality Project is all about uniting humanity. If you think about it, the Organization was motivated largely by regaining individuality. That wasn't an interpretation that was stressed by the game, but it is the natural consequence of having distinct personalities & emotions, which the Nobodies are said to just imitate, rather than actually possess. And the last thing Xemnas wants is to fade into the Sea of Tang.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Script-Z on Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:40 am

That... is dumb. They had laser beam guns. And Jet Alone (the pilotless Eva thingy that Misato stopped) was a fullblown mech, which takes care of the point about mechs. There is also the fact that saying, "if we could just have the manpower" is a weak argument. We could create a Lunar colony right now if we had the money, we know how, we tested shit like it, but if I saw a lunar colony in an anime I'd call it futuristic.

The was an anime/ game thingy that compiled a shit ton of mechs from different anime/ games. The Eva's were included, so they're mechs.

You're not talking about what I'm talking about. The Instrumentality Project, and Compliment Project are two names for the same thing.
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Post by Neo Bahamut on Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:40 am

That... is dumb.

I don't know what you want me to do about it.

They had laser beam guns.

Honestly, so do we. They're just not very practical for combat, but then again, neither was the one in Eva.

Unless there are other laser guns besides the one used on Ramiel. It's been a while.

And Jet Alone (the pilotless Eva thingy that Misato stopped) was a fullblown mech, which takes care of the point about mechs.

That is true, though as far as me not liking mechs go, did it ever occur to you that I probably didn't like that episode?

There is also the fact that saying, "if we could just have the manpower" is a weak argument. We could create a Lunar colony right now if we had the money, we know how, we tested shit like it, but if I saw a lunar colony in an anime I'd call it futuristic.

If we can make a lunar colony, which we only could under the most tenuous definition of a colony, then it's obviously not futuristic. How the fuck can technology be "futuristic" if it exists in modern times? That's more in line with "alternate timeline" than "the future."

The was an anime/ game thingy that compiled a shit ton of mechs from different anime/ games. The Eva's were included, so they're mechs.

That's terrible logic. From a terrible person.

You're not talking about what I'm talking about. The Instrumentality Project, and Compliment Project are two names for the same thing.

Ohhhh.

I don't know if "Compliment Project" is an accepted translation, though. It would seem to me that, since it's a proper noun, synonyms are not applicable.

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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by Tsukuyomi on Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:00 am

Potterwatcher1997 wrote:Never heard of it.
It's a 38 volumes long manga which is in some ways similar to Bleach, they fight plenty, but the fights and battles generally contributes more to the story than they seem to do in Bleach. It became a 26 episodes anime, which unfortunately is rather different from the manga. Some characters aren't in it and then there is an anime-only character. Anyway, you can always look at Wikipedia for more information about this story, especially if you like shounen manga/anime which takes place in feudal Japan.
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Re: Wait, wait, wait...

Post by HarleyThomas on Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:32 am

The only thing futuristic about Evangelion was Tokyo-3/the GeoFront, the Evas, Jet Alone, and the positron rifle. Hell, the last one is a stretch as it's comparable to a railgun which is not at all in the future.

Shit, Rebuild is more futurisitc.
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